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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM
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> > > Democrats have flipped out
> > > totally.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Botax? Nip/tuck Taxes Part of
> Obamacare
> > > Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:10 PM
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> > >
> > > WASHINGTON -- They call it the "Botax."
> > >
> > >
> > > The White House and Senate Democrats have
> turned
> > to a
> > > proposal to tax breast implants, tummy
> tucks,
> > > wrinkle-smoothing injections and other
> > procedures as
> > > they search for ways to pay for costly
> health
> > care
> > > overhaul plans.
> >
> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > If there is one thing that should be taxed its
> > elective cosmetic procedures. If the plastics
> guy
> > feels bad about it, he can pay that 5% himself.
>
> Let me see if I'm understanding this....according to
> the right wing...abortion...bad, bad, bad! Tax it!
> Get rid of it! Elective cosmetic
> surgery...aka....pulling the skin on your face so
> tight that your boobs become bags under your
> eyes....DON'T YOU DARE TAX THAT!
>
> Did I get that right?
Yep...I believe that's it in a nutshell.
Pity. Hell, half of the deficit could be reduced by Joan Rivers alone!
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 7:50 PM
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> > Democrats have flipped out
> > totally.
> >
> >
> > The Botax? Nip/tuck Taxes Part of Obamacare
> > Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:10 PM
> >
> >
> > WASHINGTON -- They call it the "Botax."
> >
> >
> > The White House and Senate Democrats have turned
> to a
> > proposal to tax breast implants, tummy tucks,
> > wrinkle-smoothing injections and other
> procedures as
> > they search for ways to pay for costly health
> care
> > overhaul plans.
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> If there is one thing that should be taxed its
> elective cosmetic procedures. If the plastics guy
> feels bad about it, he can pay that 5% himself.
Let me see if I'm understanding this....according to the right wing...abortion...bad, bad, bad! Tax it! Get rid of it! Elective cosmetic surgery...aka....pulling the skin on your face so tight that your boobs become bags under your eyes....DON'T YOU DARE TAX THAT!
Did I get that right?
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 7:30 PM
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> Democrats have flipped out
> totally.
>
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> The Botax? Nip/tuck Taxes Part of Obamacare
> Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:10 PM
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> WASHINGTON -- They call it the "Botax."
>
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> The White House and Senate Democrats have turned to a
> proposal to tax breast implants, tummy tucks,
> wrinkle-smoothing injections and other procedures as
> they search for ways to pay for costly health care
> overhaul plans.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If there is one thing that should be taxed its elective cosmetic procedures. If the plastics guy feels bad about it, he can pay that 5% himself.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 7:03 PM
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Democrats have flipped out totally.
The Botax? Nip/tuck Taxes Part of Obamacare
Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:10 PM
WASHINGTON -- They call it the "Botax."
The White House and Senate Democrats have turned to a proposal to tax breast implants, tummy tucks, wrinkle-smoothing injections and other procedures as they search for ways to pay for costly health care overhaul plans.
Vanity was an easy target as lawmakers scraped for cash for the nearly $1 trillion plan to expand health care to millions of Americans who lack insurance. But it's no joke to the drug makers and people who perform the cosmetic nips and tucks. And they're fighting back.
Skin-smoothing Botox injections could be hard-hit. There were some 4.7 million last year and an average cost per visit of about $400, some including several injections.
"It is a random hit on an easy target that is only punitive and not corrective," said Caroline Van Hove, a spokeswoman for Allergan Inc., the maker of Botox Cosmetic. "The bottom line is that taxing cosmetic procedures is unnecessarily punitive on people who have merely decided to enhance their appearance."
At issue is a proposal in the 10-year, nearly $1 trillion health care draft unveiled by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., that would slap a 5 percent excise tax on elective cosmetic surgeries and procedures. The plan, projected to raise $6 billion, wouldn't apply to surgery to fix a deformity or injury, but would include procedures such as face lifts, liposuction, cosmetic implants or teeth-whitening.
The plastic surgeons may have seemed like an appealing bunch to pick on given that they had already been skeptical of the Democrats' overhaul proposal. But they say it will be a blow to countless American women _ of every income level.
"The common misconception is that this is going to tax wealthy, suburban Republican women," said Dr. Phil Haeck of Seattle, Wash., the president-elect of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons. In fact, he said, of the 86 percent of cosmetic surgery patients who are female, 60 percent of them have incomes between $30,000 and $90,000.
In addition, he said the tax would be especially hurtful in tough economic times that have prompted many newly jobless women to look for ways to make themselves more marketable to prospective employers. He said, "They're competing with people 10 to 15 years younger than them and they want to look better."
The emergence of the tax in the latest Senate health legislation shows what can happen when an industry or company that's in Congress' cross-hairs isn't vigilant enough.
Dr. Daniel Russo, the Birmingham, Ala., plastic surgeon who heads the American Academy of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, said his group first heard of the cosmetic procedure tax idea over the summer. But after being assured by several lawmakers and senior congressional aides that it was not being seriously considered, the group opted not to engage in a major lobbying battle against it, he said.
"On multiple fronts, we were assured that this was not something that any one of the senators or representatives wanted to pursue. This is something that we did not foresee," Russo said in an interview.
"We feel it's unfair to those people who've saved hard-earned moneys to have something to improve their appearance, and now may not even be able to afford it," he said.
His group isn't registered to lobby, although the American Society of Plastic Surgeons reported spending nearly $400,000 this year trying to influence Congress. The society, which has two in-house lobbyists, didn't list a plastic surgery tax among its legislative priorities in disclosures filed on Capitol Hill.
Haeck, president-elect of the society, said industry players whose products would be affected took the lead lobbying against it.
Allergan's shares were down more than 2 percent Thursday after news of the tax broke. The company, which recently projected net product sales for this year of more than $4 billion, expects the injectible wrinkle-smoothing medicine to rake in $1.3 billion in 2009. It has spent $1.4 million lobbying Congress on health care issues this year.
Medical device and pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson, a maker of breast implants, also saw its shares slide. The company has spent more than $3 million lobbying Congress this year on a wide range of issues, many related to the health overhaul. It was a major player in a successful fight by the medical device industry to get lawmakers to cut in half a proposed $40 billion tax on their products.
Lobbyists and aides familiar with the proposed 5 percent cosmetic surgery tax said Allergan and Johnson & Johnson along with others in the industry helped persuade lawmakers to slash it from a 10 percent levy, which had been projected to cost about $11 billion over a decade.
Accounts vary on who first dreamed up the Botax. It came out of a late-July meeting on health care that included Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the Finance Committee chairman, and Peter Orszag, Obama's budget director, although neither man's staff acknowledges having hatched the scheme.
In the end, Reid revived it simply because "we needed money to make the bill work," his spokesman Jim Manley said.
Now that it's in the Senate legislation, plastic surgeons and the cosmetic product industry are dusting off their arguments against it. Opponents cite as a cautionary tale a similar 6 percent tax in effect in New Jersey. Haeck contends that tax has cost the state $3.39 for every $1 collected.
Whatever money would be raised, he said, would come from doctors and patients at a time they can ill-afford it, given the recession and rising unemployment.
"These women come in, they've lost their jobs, they don't have the money for a facelift," he said.
© 2009 Associated Press.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 6:51 PM
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> Everybody but the left wing wacko's love
> Sarah.
Sounds like if you could get everybody but the "left wing wackos" to vote for her, you've got yourself a President.
**Waits Patiently**
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 12:49 PM
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> "China is the most aggressive country conducting espionage against the United States," the report said.
No shit.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 12:16 PM
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I must say that I saw a recent video of Ann and she looked better. It looks like she ate something - a little softer looking and her adams apple is not so prominent. Her hair looked fuller and was a pretty color. (I apologize for any perceived cattiness between my lines.)
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 12:13 PM
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The messiah will no doubt do nothing about it.
U.S. Advisory Panel Warns of Rampant Chinese Spying
Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:10 AM
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WASHINGTON -- A U.S. congressional advisory panel said Thursday that Chinese spies are aggressively stealing American secrets to use in building Beijing's military and economic strength.
The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission also said in its annual report to lawmakers that Beijing is building a navy that could block the U.S. military from getting to the region if fighting should break out between China and Taiwan, the self-governing island off China's southeastern coast that China claims as its own.
The report follows President Barack Obama's visit this week to China, where he had extensive talks with President Hu Jintao. The commission tends to take a tougher stance on China than either Obama or his predecessor, George W. Bush. Obama wants to nurture ties with a country the United States needs to deal with some of the world's toughest crises, including nuclear standoffs with Iran and North Korea, climate change and global economic recovery.
The commission, set up by Congress in 2000 to advise, investigate and report on U.S.-China affairs, said U.S. officials believe Chinese spying is "growing in scale, intensity and sophistication."
"China is the most aggressive country conducting espionage against the United States," the report said.
Wang Baodong, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, called the spying allegations "baseless, unwarranted and irresponsible."
He called the commission's suggestion that China's navy is being built up to challenge the United States in the Pacific a "Cold War fantasy." Beijing's military spending, he said, is only a fraction of Washington's.
More generally, Wang accused the commission of recycling old, unproven allegations and issuing an annual report "aimed at misleading the American public."
The report said China was the origin of much of the rise in malicious computer attacks against the United States in 2009.
China's increased targeting of U.S. government and defense computer systems, the report said, could "destroy critical infrastructure, disrupt commerce and banking systems and compromise sensitive defense and military data."
Among the commission's recommendations are for Congress to review the U.S. ability to meet the "rising challenge" of Chinese spying and to fend off computer attacks.
Congress, the commission said, also should urge the Obama administration to push harder for China to reduce the number of missiles and forces opposite Taiwan.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 12:11 PM
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> > Diversity strength serves the right just as much
> as
> > whining left. Why? Easier to divide up the
> enemies
> > base on creed.
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> Maybe in the former USSR, but in the GOP it isn't
> that tool. Think of how the GOP has happily turned
> over whole blocs of potential voters, whose values
> are actually in line with conservatism, like
> Hispanics and Muslims. Republicans knew better than
> that after the Civil War but have abandoned reality.
> This is where Coulter especially sux, failure to deal
> with our real demographics. She may as well be pining
> for the 1950s. Oh wait, she is.
Republicans aren't anti feminists, anti health care monopoly, anti legal immigration, anti equal rights, and Christians only.
There are energy, resources, and other geopolitical advantages we need to protect.
Ms. Right in 50's dress...yum.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 11:47 AM
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> Diversity strength serves the right just as much as
> whining left. Why? Easier to divide up the enemies
> base on creed.
Maybe in the former USSR, but in the GOP it isn't that tool. Think of how the GOP has happily turned over whole blocs of potential voters, whose values are actually in line with conservatism, like Hispanics and Muslims. Republicans knew better than that after the Civil War but have abandoned reality. This is where Coulter especially sux, failure to deal with our real demographics. She may as well be pining for the 1950s. Oh wait, she is.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 11:36 AM
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> > > But she's so lovely, logical, and brutally
> > honest.
> >
> > Yes, like I said. Honestly racist and honestly
> stupid
> > (with a patina of language trickery). The
> "lovely"
> > part, a chacun son gout.
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> I wouldn't say she's a racist. She's right in a way.
> We're all cancer to this planet, but there's Hitler,
> , then Brits' White Man's Burden, which all failed
> pretty miserably and relatively quickly too.
>
> Manifest Destiny remains to be seen. I guess, the
> difference probably comes down to the malignant and
> benign types.
I just don't know which one is which.
Diversity strength serves the right just as much as whining left. Why? Easier to divide up the enemies base on creed.
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Re: Opinion of The Right.
Nov 19, 2009 9:00 AM
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If they actually get to shake hands with her, it'll make their masturbating in the future more relevant.
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