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I thought since the "boys" from the books and show were being disscussed that we should talk about Sookie too.
1. One thing that bugs me from book 1 is how mad Sookie gets at Arlene for not wanting Bill around her kids. He is a vampire who has friends like the three fanged stooges and he has over a century and a half practicing taking lives and being cruel. For Sookie to get that irrationally mad irkes me, she doesn't have kids and is not willing to see it from her perspective.
2. I like how self-sufficent she is how she does almost everything herself and she is loyal and kind.
I will come up with quotes from the show and books as we go on to illustrate these points and others and I hope y'all will do the same.
Edited: Oh and Sookie could you please stop laying out every chance you get in my mind your turning into a suitcase with boobs.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 8, 2009 3:13 PM
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My opinion of Sookie is based solely on what I've seen on the show, True Blood. Sorry if that wasn't clear, or if I posted in the wrong thread. It seems to me that a lot of book readers carry over feelings about a character that don't necessarily match what we've been shown by Alan Ball, making it increasingly difficult to have meaningful discussions about the television show, since he's significantly changed the character of a few key players.
I appreciate the replies, though, and despite my opinion about Sookie, I still think the show is good and very funny.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 8, 2009 12:00 PM
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KatieDorrII posted: She's written as naive unsophisticated, and somewhat prudish and judgmental. Oh wait, she's also a telepath who's been reading people's innermost thoughts her entire life! Now if someone actually had that ability, they'd most likely be jaded, cynical, wise beyond their years, and 3 steps ahead of everyone else, but Sookie is none of those things. They can't have it both ways.
Something to think about. Sookie viewed her telepathy as a disability. She has had zero support from anyone regarding her ability. Even when it hits them in the face, they deny it. I know Andy, Jason and Sam danced around it, but it was still something they didn?t talk about directly. Others just refused to believe it. This has been happening all of her life. All of her life! Throughout her developmental years. She has not been able to build self-confidence, quite the opposite. She is pretty extraordinary, but everyone denies it, some even call her crazy. For all she knew, she was crazy.
This is where no-man-is-an-island comes in, without outside acceptance and approval; an individual's development is stunted. She did receive approval for her good manners, her work ethic, and her appearance, so these are things she fleshed out and incorporated into her self. But in a way, I believe she dissociated from the telepathy, she tried so hard to keep it out.
So when Bill shows up, calm, mysterious and allowing her to have company but also peace, it was a new day for her. So now, she is accepting her telepathy more and more, she is using it and valued for it. Now she will grow with it, but I believe she will still hold dear to her earlier self. The self she was loved and valued for.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 8, 2009 11:26 AM
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> I basically strive to be more like Sookie I think I'm
> going to get a braclet made that Says What would
> Sookie do? LOL
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> LMAO! I want one too! Tht was great!
Sign me up for one of those too lol.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 8, 2009 5:54 AM
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> I'm glad to hear that book Sookie is different. I
> can't imagine what Alan Ball was thinking.
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> From the very first, her character has been a problem
> for me. Even in a fantasy world, certain character
> traits have to make sense, but it seems she's been
> put together from various parts like some
> Frankenstein monster.
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> She's written as naive, unsophisticated, and
> somewhat prudish and judgmental. Oh wait, she's
> also a telepath who's been reading people's innermost
> thoughts her entire life! Now if someone actually
> had that ability, they'd most likely be jaded,
> cynical, wise beyond their years, and 3 steps ahead
> of everyone else, but Sookie is none of those things.
> They can't have it both ways.
It's hard for me to decide if she would be cynical. If you could always read thoughts and were use to people saying one thing and thinking another, would it just be normal to you without totally hardening you?
Also how often do truly negative thoughts about others cross someone's mind? People are probably more concerned with the minutia of their own lives than chronically finding fault with others.
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> We're told that she stopped dating guys because she
> could read their thoughts. Note to Sookie - most
> boys are not that deep, you don't need to be a
> a telepath to know what's on their mind. Besides,
> when you're blessed with some added attractant,
> reading their thoughts should be a turn on.
CH makes book Sookie sound like she's worried about being judged for her body or technique in a physical relationship. However she also writes that book Sookie suffered years of abuse at the uncle's hands before someone finally believed her and that the worst part for her was being able to read the uncle's mind. It would make more sense if reading what guys wanted to do with her recalled what happened with the uncle.
The sexual abuse was indicated in S1 with TB Sookie although I don't think the show referenced how lengthy it was, and it was mentioned in passing to Bill with a kind of sad look on her face. In the book, she's in bed discussing it with Bill and has a more physical reaction where she curls up into a fetal position with a nervous smile on her face, etc.
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> Since becoming involved with vampires, she's been
> somewhat controlled by and drugged by their blood, is
> constantly in danger or needing to be 'rescued'. In
> n retrospect, is wondering if the carpet matches the
> drapes really that offensive?
Can't argue with the blood thing or the damsel in distress thing.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 7, 2009 7:50 PM
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> I'm glad to hear that book Sookie is different. I
> can't imagine what Alan Ball was thinking.
>
> From the very first, her character has been a problem
> for me. Even in a fantasy world, certain character
> traits have to make sense, but it seems she's been
> put together from various parts like some
> Frankenstein monster.
>
> She's written as naive, unsophisticated, and
> somewhat prudish and judgmental. Oh wait, she's
> also a telepath who's been reading people's innermost
> thoughts her entire life! Now if someone actually
> had that ability, they'd most likely be jaded,
> cynical, wise beyond their years, and 3 steps ahead
> of everyone else, but Sookie is none of those things.
> They can't have it both ways.
>
> We're told that she stopped dating guys because she
> could read their thoughts. Note to Sookie - most
> boys are not that deep, you don't need to be a
> a telepath to know what's on their mind. Besides,
> when you're blessed with some added attractant,
> reading their thoughts should be a turn on.
>
> Since becoming involved with vampires, she's been
> somewhat controlled by and drugged by their blood, is
> constantly in danger or needing to be 'rescued'. In
> n retrospect, is wondering if the carpet matches the
> drapes really that offensive?
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> True
> Blood Screencaps
I'm glad that Sookie is not jaded, or cynical I like that despite everything she has manged to retain her innocence, and I think Sookie is usually at least 1 or 2 steps ahead of some characters in the books.
And as far as dating regular guys goes I don't think its merely them wondering if the carpet matches the drapes(I love that by the way!) that is her main concern, more likely it would be finding out that the man looks down on her for her proffesion or doesn't like her smile or thinks her ass is too fat (she is afterall a size twelve not excatly a toothpick)or that the man in question is just a shitty person. As far as reading their minds being a turn on just because she is attrative is riduclious, they aren't always going to be thinking "God she is Hot!"
I agree that she has been hurt many times physically by Vampires but she has also been able to have a relationship for the first time (and at 26 I'm sure she was starting to give up hope) And she got to use her gift and get paid at times for it and be treasured for it for the first time in her life that has to count for something.
Edited: I just realized you were talking about Show Sookie my bad, but I still stand by what I wrote sorta
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 7, 2009 6:03 PM
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I'm glad to hear that book Sookie is different. I can't imagine what Alan Ball was thinking.
From the very first, her character has been a problem for me. Even in a fantasy world, certain character traits have to make sense, but it seems she's been put together from various parts like some Frankenstein monster.
She's written as naive, unsophisticated, and somewhat prudish and judgmental. Oh wait, she's also a telepath who's been reading people's innermost thoughts her entire life! Now if someone actually had that ability, they'd most likely be jaded, cynical, wise beyond their years, and 3 steps ahead of everyone else, but Sookie is none of those things. They can't have it both ways.
We're told that she stopped dating guys because she could read their thoughts. Note to Sookie - most boys are not that deep, you don't need to be a telepath to know what's on their mind. Besides, when you're blessed with some added attractant, reading their thoughts should be a turn on.
Since becoming involved with vampires, she's been somewhat controlled by and drugged by their blood, is constantly in danger or needing to be 'rescued'. In retrospect, is wondering if the carpet matches the drapes really that offensive?
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 7, 2009 5:29 PM
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I like sookies character in the books better then the one in the series... i think she sticks her noes into to many things and is a bit to cocky in the show
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 7, 2009 5:14 PM
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM
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KatieDorrII:
You just reminded me of Uncle Barlett~~Rene's sister's name was Cindy Marshall
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM
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I basically strive to be more like Sookie I think I'm going to get a braclet made that Says What would Sookie do? LOL
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LMAO! I want one too! Tht was great!
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 3:23 PM
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Thanks for that list, Marlene. I got them up now, including the Rattrays and Uncle Bartlett. I didn't have a pic of Rene's sister though.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 11:37 AM
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KatieDorrII:
You forgot the dearly departed from season 1:
maudette Picken's
DawnGreen
Aldele HaleStackhouse
AmyBurley
Liam
Dianne
Malcome
Eddie
ReneLanier/His Sister
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 11:31 AM
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What I like about Sookie:
1. She isn't in every scene.
2. If it wasn't for Sookie, there'd be less male nudity.
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 9:22 AM
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Mia, I'm glad that someone finally said something Good about Sookie I agree with all those things!
1. She always trys to do the right thing, even when it hurts her.
2. She is kind at times to people that don't like her or hate her, like in Book 2 she takes Andy to her spare bedroom to sleep cause she is afraid he will have an accident if he drives.
3. She keeps her promises
4. She is ruthlessess and kind of blood thirsty (I know this could be seen as a fault but I like it.)
5. She refuses to be a kept woman
6. She is honest mostly
7. She never breaks anyone's confidence
8. She is modest
9. She doesn't need anyone to rescue her most of the time (unlike Show Sookie who can't do anything by herself)
I basically strive to be more like Sookie I think I'm going to get a braclet made that Says What would Sookie do? LOL
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Re: Disscuss things about Book and Show Sookie that you like and dislike
Oct 6, 2009 6:03 AM
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I like that book Sookie can think. I'm rereading book 1, and it's she that makes the connection that the killer intended to kill her and not Gran and is the same person that killed Dawn and Maudette. It's not attributed to Bill like it was in season 1.
I like that she's loyal and courageous. From book 1, she goes to Fangtasia primarily to keep Bill from being a suspect in the killings even after her frightening experience with Diane, Liam, and Malcolm, and even though she was scared while she was at the bar.
"You were protecting me," he said. "You thought the police would suspect me of killing these two women. That's why you wanted to be sure they were accessible to other vampires."
In book 4, she pulls over for Eric when she sees him running down the road even though Eric scares her to some extent. In book 5, she secures a rescue for Tara from Mickey by telling Eric about his loss memories even though she's afraid it will give him power over her.
I also like that she can rescue herself. She took care of Rene in the first book without intervention from Sam or Bill. She convinced Godfrey and Luna to help her escape from the church in the second book. She saves herself from Mickey in the fifth book and so on.
I like that she has manners and is conscious of doing the correct thing. I like that she writes thank-you notes to vampires and keeps True Blood on hand when she has vampire guests. It shows she treats them the same as she would treat human guests.
As to the relationship thing, Eric wasn't always smart with his dealings with Sookie. If I remember correctly when she got involved with Quinn, Eric hadn't made any effort to start or continue a relationship with Sookie after Sookie told him what happened between them while he stayed at her house in book 4, and I think she was hurt by it.
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